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Apr 27, 2024 14:46:38   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
Parky60 wrote:
That this retired "pastor" is a woman speaks volumes.


A woke fraud!

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Apr 27, 2024 15:17:46   #
Liberty Tree
 
AuH20 wrote:
As I am new, I have no knowledge of present or past site members.


Sorry, i meant post for someone else.

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Apr 27, 2024 15:20:02   #
AuH20
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Sorry, i meant post for someone else.


Think how much easier it would be if we could discern a person’s traits without having to learn through interaction.

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Apr 27, 2024 16:27:58   #
BIRDMAN
 
TJKMO wrote:
Christian Nationalism: A grave threat to America

https://dailymontanan.com/2024/04/27/christian-nationalism-a-grave-threat-to-america/

PULL QUOTE:

“ Christian Nationalism doesn’t reflect what Jesus taught and how he lived his life. The Bible’s overarching theme is God’s love for all of us – regardless of our skin color, political affiliation, economic status or gender identity. While I’m a Christian, I believe God’s love is extended to all people. The gospel (which means “good news”) is always a gift. It should never be used as a weapon.

What can we do? Each of us must think carefully about where our greatest allegiance lies. Matthew 22:22 quotes Jesus saying, “give to Caesar what is Ceasar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.” We can be Christian and still be patriotic, which – simply stated – is love for one’s country. Nationalism is putting our highest allegiance to our country, especially its historically dominant ethnic, social, and cultural classes. Politics usurps what belongs only to our creator.

Between now and Nov. 5, Americans cannot be misled by self-serving politicians or Christian Nationalist clergy like most German Christians were. Christian Nationalism flagrantly distorts Christianity and purposely puts down people of color, disabled, LGBTQIA . . . just like Hitler did.”
Christian Nationalism: A grave threat to America b... (show quote)


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Apr 28, 2024 01:16:56   #
TJKMO Loc: Bicycle Heaven
 
Wonttakeitanymore wrote:
Guess that shut it up! Thank you


Shut what up??

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Apr 28, 2024 07:21:42   #
Big dog
 
Parky60 wrote:
That this retired "pastor" is a woman speaks volumes.


A troll like (her) strikes me as an effort of a few of George Soros’s flunkies composing some very serious and complex propaganda. By claiming to be an educated religious woman (she) has presented (herself) as to be above and beyond all approach, an expert that cannot be refuted due to (her) superior intellect and religious conviction.
That there is no simple troll but is instead an organized propaganda machine.
(She) comes on just a little too strong to be considered a real person, especially one of true knowledge and compassion, or even a singular entity

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Apr 28, 2024 11:32:21   #
Liberal Lily
 
TJKMO wrote:
Christian Nationalism: A grave threat to America

https://dailymontanan.com/2024/04/27/christian-nationalism-a-grave-threat-to-america/

PULL QUOTE:

“ Christian Nationalism doesn’t reflect what Jesus taught and how he lived his life. The Bible’s overarching theme is God’s love for all of us – regardless of our skin color, political affiliation, economic status or gender identity. While I’m a Christian, I believe God’s love is extended to all people. The gospel (which means “good news”) is always a gift. It should never be used as a weapon.

What can we do? Each of us must think carefully about where our greatest allegiance lies. Matthew 22:22 quotes Jesus saying, “give to Caesar what is Ceasar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.” We can be Christian and still be patriotic, which – simply stated – is love for one’s country. Nationalism is putting our highest allegiance to our country, especially its historically dominant ethnic, social, and cultural classes. Politics usurps what belongs only to our creator.

Between now and Nov. 5, Americans cannot be misled by self-serving politicians or Christian Nationalist clergy like most German Christians were. Christian Nationalism flagrantly distorts Christianity and purposely puts down people of color, disabled, LGBTQIA . . . just like Hitler did.”
Christian Nationalism: A grave threat to America b... (show quote)


Keep ALL religion at church .... well contained and away from people who care not for the influence.

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Apr 28, 2024 15:39:40   #
Big dog
 
Liberal Lily wrote:
Keep ALL religion at church .... well contained and away from people who care not for the influence.


Keep all blasphemous heathens in Gaza .

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Apr 28, 2024 15:42:44   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
Liberal Lily wrote:
Keep ALL religion at church .... well contained and away from people who care not for the influence.

Keep ALL YOUR BULLSHIT at home .... well contained and away from people who care not for the influence.

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Apr 28, 2024 15:49:18   #
TJKMO Loc: Bicycle Heaven
 
Big dog wrote:
A troll like (her) strikes me as an effort of a few of George Soros’s flunkies composing some very serious and complex propaganda. By claiming to be an educated religious woman (she) has presented (herself) as to be above and beyond all approach, an expert that cannot be refuted due to (her) superior intellect and religious conviction.
That there is no simple troll but is instead an organized propaganda machine.
(She) comes on just a little too strong to be considered a real person, especially one of true knowledge and compassion, or even a singular entity
A troll like (her) strikes me as an effort of a fe... (show quote)


My PITY for you grows Daily.

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Apr 28, 2024 16:32:00   #
martsiva
 
TJKMO wrote:
Christian Nationalism: A grave threat to America

https://dailymontanan.com/2024/04/27/christian-nationalism-a-grave-threat-to-america/

PULL QUOTE:

“ Christian Nationalism doesn’t reflect what Jesus taught and how he lived his life. The Bible’s overarching theme is God’s love for all of us – regardless of our skin color, political affiliation, economic status or gender identity. While I’m a Christian, I believe God’s love is extended to all people. The gospel (which means “good news”) is always a gift. It should never be used as a weapon.

What can we do? Each of us must think carefully about where our greatest allegiance lies. Matthew 22:22 quotes Jesus saying, “give to Caesar what is Ceasar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.” We can be Christian and still be patriotic, which – simply stated – is love for one’s country. Nationalism is putting our highest allegiance to our country, especially its historically dominant ethnic, social, and cultural classes. Politics usurps what belongs only to our creator.

Between now and Nov. 5, Americans cannot be misled by self-serving politicians or Christian Nationalist clergy like most German Christians were. Christian Nationalism flagrantly distorts Christianity and purposely puts down people of color, disabled, LGBTQIA . . . just like Hitler did.”
Christian Nationalism: A grave threat to America b... (show quote)


YOU point out just where Christain Nationalism puts down people of color and the disabled!! It doesn`t and you just tell these lies because Christain Nationalists believe in God`s word condemning the homosexuality that you support!! They believe in God`s ordained marriage is between a man and a woman and you don`t! Your post here is classic of you supporting what God condemns and THEN call yourself a Christian?? No Christian supports what God condemns or tries to twist scripture to fit their agenda like you do!! God loves everyone but condemns their sins - you support sin!! God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah because of the homosexual wickedness in them!! You want to debate that truth??

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Apr 28, 2024 16:38:41   #
martsiva
 
Milosia2 wrote:
American Taliban !


Only a true communist like you would insult American nationalism!! Nationalism is : devotion to one`s country - patriotism - and belie fin an independent state - all the things you communists hate!!

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Apr 28, 2024 16:50:25   #
martsiva
 
TJKMO wrote:
“My father, who served as a Naval officer in the South Pacific, shared fascinating World War II stories with me. With ensuing history classes I became troubled by America’s slow response to Adolf Hitler’s atrocities in Europe and incredulous that Christians in Germany blindly followed their deranged dictator.

While pursuing a Master of Divinity degree at the University of Dubuque Theological Seminary, I took a course titled “Christianity and the Holocaust.” I learned that Hitler’s strategy to build loyalty and support within German churches was masterful. He encouraged kids in his German youth organizations to get their families to attend Sunday worship with them. Church attendance skyrocketed; pastors were thrilled. Eventually, Germany’s government rule and religion became one.

We know the rest of the story of Hitler and his followers’ persecution of Jews, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Blacks, disabled, gays, trade unionists and people who were of Roma, Sinti and Slavic descent. Sadly, only a handful of German clergy confronted Hitler.

It’s now 34 years after my seminary graduation. I feel called to stand with other pastors throughout America in speaking out against another movement seeking to fuse government and religion.

The threat is Christian Nationalism. Christian Nationalism wants to bring America’s church and state into one entity – just like Hitler did — which is incompatible with the most basic principle of our democratic framework. I am deeply concerned about this cult-like movement.

A plethora of news stories and broadcasts have revealed America now has many political figures whose words and actions are those of a Christian Nationalist. The movement is dangerous in its assertion that God has a special bond with the United States and with selected politicians. It is unwise, undemocratic and destructive.

A national survey conducted jointly by Public Religion Research Institute and the Brookings Institution found 64 percent of white evangelical Protestants are Christian Nationalism adherents or sympathizers to the movement. Thirty-five percent of Americans have never heard of the term “Christian Nationalism.”

Christian Nationalism is fueled by white supremacy, the belief that white people are superior to those of other races and should dominate them. They are taught to shun LGBTQIA persons, embrace dominance of men over women and believe that only Christianity – one of 10,000 distinct religions — should rule Congress, state governments and the court system.

The movement has been percolating for decades by a surprisingly large pool of white Christians who feel they’re called by God to rise up and defend themselves against anyone who is different. The Jan. 6, 2020 insurrection on our U.S. Capitol was Christian Nationalism exemplified.

The most comprehensive research study to date of American religion was conducted by sociologists’ Andrew Whitehead and Samuel Perry. Their study with more than 16,000 people noted Christian Nationalism paradoxically holds America as sacred in God’s sight. It baptizes authoritarian rule. It sanctifies the preservation of order with righteous violence. It glorifies the patriarchal, heterosexual family as not only God’s biblical standard, but the cornerstone of all thriving civilizations.

Christian Nationalism
is a political movement couched in religious language. Their ultimate goal is earthly power – control over people and issues they don’t like — which is the exact opposite of what the gospels teach us. Jesus came as a suffering servant who gave his life for all of us, whether we’re rich, poor, gay, straight, Black, white, brown, of any culture, of any creed and of any language.

Christian Nationalism doesn’t reflect what Jesus taught and how he lived his life. The Bible’s overarching theme is God’s love for all of us – regardless of our skin color, political affiliation, economic status or gender identity. While I’m a Christian, I believe God’s love is extended to all people. The gospel (which means “good news”) is always a gift. It should never be used as a weapon.

What can we do? Each of us must think carefully about where our greatest allegiance lies. Matthew 22:22 quotes Jesus saying, “give to Caesar what is Ceasar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.” We can be Christian and still be patriotic, which – simply stated – is love for one’s country. Nationalism is putting our highest allegiance to our country, especially its historically dominant ethnic, social, and cultural classes. Politics usurps what belongs only to our creator.

Between now and Nov. 5, Americans cannot be misled by self-serving politicians or Christian Nationalist clergy like most German Christians were. Christian Nationalism flagrantly distorts Christianity and purposely puts down people of color, disabled, LGBTQIA . . . just like Hitler did.

I pray that we, as Americans, will continue to respect democracy, non-violence, and the critical separation of religion and government as we demonstrate love for ALL our neighbors”.


Cathy Young
Retired Pastor
4/27/24
“My father, who served as a Naval officer in the S... (show quote)


Why do you keep repeating these lies about Christain Nationalism?? Oh yes - they believe in God`s condemnation of what you support is why!! One more time - prove the lies you keep repeating!! Just saying the lies that Christian Nationalism puts down people of color and the disabled proves that this article is nothing but lies!! I researched what they believe and they believe in the word of God and you don`t!!

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Apr 28, 2024 16:52:53   #
martsiva
 
AuH20 wrote:
Place the two words together .


Yup - the boring lies that she is a Christian!!

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Apr 28, 2024 16:54:22   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
TJKMO wrote:
Christian Nationalism: A grave threat to America

https://dailymontanan.com/2024/04/27/christian-nationalism-a-grave-threat-to-america/

PULL QUOTE:

“ Christian Nationalism doesn’t reflect what Jesus taught and how he lived his life. The Bible’s overarching theme is God’s love for all of us – regardless of our skin color, political affiliation, economic status or gender identity. While I’m a Christian, I believe God’s love is extended to all people. The gospel (which means “good news”) is always a gift. It should never be used as a weapon.

What can we do? Each of us must think carefully about where our greatest allegiance lies. Matthew 22:22 quotes Jesus saying, “give to Caesar what is Ceasar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.” We can be Christian and still be patriotic, which – simply stated – is love for one’s country. Nationalism is putting our highest allegiance to our country, especially its historically dominant ethnic, social, and cultural classes. Politics usurps what belongs only to our creator.

Between now and Nov. 5, Americans cannot be misled by self-serving politicians or Christian Nationalist clergy like most German Christians were. Christian Nationalism flagrantly distorts Christianity and purposely puts down people of color, disabled, LGBTQIA . . . just like Hitler did.”
Christian Nationalism: A grave threat to America b... (show quote)
That female pastor oughta be drawn and quartered,
the notion of attempting to find a moral equivalence between Christian nationalism and National Socialism (NAZISM) is beyond contemptible.

Tell us, TJ, what would a Roman Catholic apostate like you think would happen if suddenly, like an Epiphany,
every American became a disciple of Christ?

What is Christ's Great Commission?
After Jesus Christ's death on the cross, he was buried and then resurrected on the third day. Before he ascended into heaven, he appeared to his disciples in Galilee and gave them these instructions:

"All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age." (Matthew 28:18-20, NIV)

This section of Scripture is known as the Great Commission. It was the last recorded personal directive of the Savior to his disciples, and it holds great significance to all followers of Christ.

The Great Commission

The Great Commission is the foundation for evangelism and cross-cultural missions work in Christian theology.
The Great Commission appears in Matthew 28:16-20; Mark 16:15–18; Luke 24:44-49; John 20:19-23; and Acts 1:8.
Springing from the heart of God, the Great Commission calls Christ's disciples to carry out the work God started by sending his Son into the world to die for lost sinners.

Because the Lord gave final instructions for his followers to go to all nations and that he would be with them even until the very end of the age, Christians of all generations have embraced this command. As often it has been said, it was not "The Great Suggestion." No, the Lord commanded his followers from every generation to put their faith into action and to go make disciples.

The Great Commission in the Gospels

The full text of the most familiar version of the Great Commission is recorded in Matthew 28:16-20 (cited above). But it is also found in each of the Gospel texts.

Although each version varies, these passages record an encounter of Jesus with his disciples after the resurrection. In each instance, Jesus sends his followers out with specific instructions. He uses commands such as "go, teach, baptize, forgive, and make."

The Gospel of Mark 16:15-18 reads:

He said to them, "Go into all the world and preach the good news to all creation. Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well." (NIV)

The Gospel of Luke 24:44-49 says:

He said to them, "This is what I told you while I was still with you: Everything must be fulfilled that is written about me in the Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms." Then he opened their minds so they could understand the Scriptures. He told them, "This is what is written: The Christ will suffer and rise from the dead on the third day, and repentance and forgiveness of sins will be preached in his name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. You are witnesses of these things. I am going to send you what my Father has promised; but stay in the city until you have been clothed with power from on high." (NIV)

The Gospel of John 20:19-23 states:

On the evening of that first day of the week, when the disciples were together, with the doors locked for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood among them and said, "Peace be with you!" After he said this, he showed them his hands and side. The disciples were overjoyed when they saw the Lord. Again Jesus said, "Peace be with you! As the Father has sent me, I am sending you." And with that he breathed on them and said, "Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive anyone his sins, they are forgiven; if you do not forgive them, they are not forgiven." (NIV)

This verse in the book of Acts 1:8 is also part of the Great Commission:

[Jesus said,] "But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth.” (NIV)

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