PeterS

God of the Gaps argument...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Nikg4hMRjs

And no, I don't h**e Christian's but ignorance doesn't stand very high in my book...

liberalhunter Loc: Your mom's house

You need help

PeterS

Only for those who haven't listened to the video

AuH20

for we walk by faith, not by sight [living our lives in a manner consistent with our confident belief in God’s promises]—

A blessed Sunday to you.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

It is said,
"The statement that science is the only path to the t***h contradicts itself
because the statement has no basis in science."

But since you are going with an atheist astrophysicist, here's some God seeking science for ya.

Read this:
Return to the God Hypothesis: Three Scientific Discoveries That Reveal the Mind Behind the Universe.
by Dr. Stephen Meyer.

The New York Times bestselling author of Darwin’s Doubt, Stephen Meyer,presents groundbreaking scientific evidence of the existence of God, based on breakthroughs in physics, cosmology, and biology.

Beginning in the late 19th century, many intellectuals began to insist that scientific knowledge conflicts with traditional theistic belief—that science and belief in God are “at war.” Philosopher of science Stephen Meyer challenges this view by examining three scientific discoveries with decidedly theistic implications. Building on the case for the intelligent design of life that he developed in Signature in the Cell and Darwin’s Doubt, Meyer demonstrates how discoveries in cosmology and physics coupled with those in biology help to establish the identity of the designing intelligence behind life and the universe.

Meyer argues that theism—with its affirmation of a transcendent, intelligent and active creator—best explains the evidence we have concerning biological and cosmological origins. Previously Meyer refrained from attempting to answer questions about “who” might have designed life. Now he provides an evidence-based answer to perhaps the ultimate mystery of the universe. In so doing, he reveals a stunning conclusion: the data support not just the existence of an intelligent designer of some kind—but the existence of a personal God.

I'd very much like to see Neil DeGrasse Tyson (The Human who Destroys God) debate Dr. Meyer,
Meyer discusses Tyson and masterfully concludes his book with a chapter on the fallacy of the "God of the gaps".

This is how Meyer begins his Conclusion:

"At 2:00am on a wintery English night in December 1986, I sat outside Isaac Newton's old rooms at the front of Trinity College. As a deep fog moved among the medieval colleges in the center of Cambridge, I reflected on how thinking about science and God had changed since the publication of Newton's great Principia in 1687, almost exactly three centuries earlier. In the epilogue to a later edition of that book called "The General Scholium" and in other scientific works, notably the Optiks, Newton articulated a profoundly theological perspective. Not only did he extol the order and uniformity of nature as a reflection of God's character and superintending care of creation, he argued for the existence of God based on design evident in nature -- in short for a God hypothesis.

Meyer's book is a mind-blower, but you'd best have a pretty solid background in the physical sciences and math to negotiate some of the deep science involved. In fact, in introducing his book, Meyer said he tried to write the narratives to accommodate the widest readership, but that when diving into the science, casual readers may encounter problems. Even with my own science background, primarily in physics and the astro-sciences, I struggled through some sections totally baffled. But I got the message.

Liberty Tree

You are the greatest bigot on OPP.

SeaLass Loc: Western Soviet Socialist Republics

This book is a very elegant and thoughtful development and explanation of some fairly technical scientific concepts, but in the end falls back on the basic "God of the Gap" argument.

crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island

No, I believe you do h**e Christians.

dbirch

may not h**e us but you certainly have not problem telling us what poor excuses of human being we are. Judge not.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Yeah, in his conclusion, Meyer falls heavily on the God of the gaps argument as a big blunder (a fallacy) in materialistic science.